their behavior is purely narcissistic and mean spirited. i see no signs of autism…geez!

If someone wants to bruise/break their knucles, they are letting out something. Anger, frustration, sadness whatever. Let em get it out without judgement

100!! Punching something isn’t the same as punching a person!! He didn’t need to hear that!

Punching doors and walls is ABSOLUTELY a big deal in the states. If I was ever in a relationship where someone punched a hole in the wall that would be the end of it. If I saw that behavior in friends I would be extremely concerned. I’m sorry that in your life it has been normalized, but that is not the experience for all Americans. The difference between Paul’s actions and everyone else’s horrible, manipulative behavior is that Paul became physical. The pattern of extreme aggression and then love bombing is classic DV. Paul is not a murder, but people who have displayed similar behavior do become murders. OFTEN. Domestic Violence OFTEN leads to homoicide. It is the leading cause of death in pregnant women in the United States. Above any terrifiing medical complication- its homoicide related to DV. So yes, I think Paul’s behavior is way worse than gaslighting and very serious. I hope he gets the help he needs.

I’m 34 years old, been with my husband for 14 years, and have lived in Los Angeles all my life and this kind of behavior is a FIRM indication of lack of emotional intelligence and self control. Why should it reach destruction?? Punching the wall IS DRAMATIC and TOTALLY unnecessary. This WREAKS of domestic violence…. especially him coming back looking for sympathy and saying ‘he hates himself for how he acted.’ The fact that you defend it and don’t recognize these red flags is sad and scary.

does this not encapsulate everything wrong with men in general. u say u don’t condone violence but there’s always an escalation, the wall punch was just the first step into domestic violence. imagine what he’d have done if there were no cameras. seek help. 

IKR? They have a full on psychopath (Jacqui) running loose, Adrian being emotionally abusive…but we draw the line & are OUTRAGED when a man temporarily loses his cool & punches a door? So the door has more value than human emotions? Wonder how that will make Awhina feel…go save that door, experts!!

I love them ❤️

Tony wanted a way out that saves face for both him and Morena. Her friends got waaaay to understanding when they heard about, how this young (50+) boys life long wish to be a father. Also Tony did a small shrug when he told the camera about it.
This season the editor are savages, they leave in a lot of real stuff.

It’s Quavo according to the daily mail article posted today

Don’t forget Morena!!

Yes, I like her much better than I thought I was going to.  If that makes sense.

OMG YES!!! I was literally saying that out of ALL the toxicity, why only the one (who seems sincerely remorseful), rather than the emotional abusers and gaslighters and the ones literally wasting others’ time? SERIOUSLY. also, some people need some serious help here, it’s quite upsetting and concerning that the “experts” let a lot of these scenarios play out for TV. Jamie though, her expressions have me LOL’ing, LOVE her. 

I’d like to think she’s gotten a lot more the original Eliot we saw at the beginning. That’s the only way I can understand the way she’s coming at him now. 

I’ve never felt so angry about something I’ve seen on a TV show in my life, Veronica is terrible, I just want Eliot to leave and get far away from her. How she was all pally with Lauren as well didn’t sit right with me. I know she won’t watch this back and feel shame which is very sad.

She has a bit of the delulus. Not really tracking the happenings, but quite sure of her opinion being the TRUTH. Also seems to be experienced in shity relationship argument tactics.