poor clint.  this woman is a real ‘B’ hiding behind her June Cleaver facade..
 

punching a wall is no freaked big deal.  he didn’t hit her.  people need to stfu and move on.  

Veronica gets uglier and uglier each episode 

They were being too hard and judgemental on Paul. I wish they were that hard on Veronica, she was psychologically abusive. It is obvious Paul has very strong feelings for her and got overwhelmed. Also being on this show is a pressure cooker, and I can imagine his emotions are running higher than usual. In my experience, I’ve known men who have hit walls and have never touched another person and never would. Yet I’ve known men who have never hit walls, but have threatened to punch me. He didn’t hit her nor threaten to hit her and was clearly broken up about it. Give him some grace. And not just in this instance, but the experts get on my nerves quite regularly. They are often very judgemental but also turn a blind eye to manipulative behavior as well. 

Red flag red flag red flag. You better pay attention. If he is hitting the door he will hit you next and there was not a tear in his eye. I didn’t see anything drop and the way he was holding on her tight. I don’t know about him  red flag.

Why the hell are the judges appeasing Lauren’s whims? Her views on a perfectly healthy happening in a relationship are extremely toxic and set back progress by decades. Stop promoting helpless little boys who don’t know how to cook/clean/do laundry. Being a woman doesn’t mean being a free maid/slave in the house while your husband does all the less “dirty” tasks. What is wrong with these judges AND Lauren??? How can you just tell this perfectly good man to behave in a backwards manner to appease Lauren because those are her “needs”? What if she said that she wants him to slap her any time she folds something wrong, because she sees “alpha male” as that, would they also be cool with that? what a weird ass show, truly. This is the worst season for mental health, of both the participants and viewers. Disgraceful.  

I think Veronica is plain stupid. How can you listen to that story and not get ANYTHING out of it, unless you are literally a brainless and emotionless robot.

Adrian is so abusive it’s driving me completely insane. Why are the experts not calling this out????? And I feel so sad awhina feels like she has to stay and doesn’t deserve more. 

Like everyone else, why did the experts let Adrian get off with his obvious controlling ways and then hammer Paul mercilessly? You can tell what kind of  “man” Adrian is by his constant smirking.

So the rapper Corina slept with Quavo!!! 

Awhina, never had an issue before with speaking her mind, but today she “cares” about Adrain? Something happened that we didn’t see… this is weird!! I feel they just want to stay on the show for views and for social media likes! SMH GROW UP!!! Awhina you are an IDIOT!!

Why is no one talking about Morenas enterance? Are you kidding me? She acts like a bulldog, trying to intimadate EVERYONE. Lady-with this attitude you will stay single af. 

The experts do not allow physical violence–and understandably so–but they are perfectly fine with emotional and psychological abuse. They’re sick.

Jacqui’s face looks like a cross between Michael Jackson and a bullfrog. 

Lauren’s personality is a classic fun killer 1/10. Loves to give out criticism and expects everyone to love her in return. Lol 

Sorry but the grovelling towards Carina on her leg when she is talking is just gross. Reaks of desperation knowing it will be aired on national tv. 

Oh Awhina ! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!   Whispering on the side “Don’t tell me what to say”… and you said it more than once. Then, you turn around and look to him for permission to answer the expert’s question.  PLEASE !  Like his family said, when they were talking smack about you…. .you can wrap shit in a pretty little package…and it’s still shit!   Throw that giant heap of dog shit, in the bin.   He doesn’t give a rat’s ass for your feelings.   I am appauld at the experts not calling him out, on how he kept looking over at the other couples, winking and smiling and even verbalizing how he isn’t a bad guy.  You know why he is always smirking and smiling?  Because he has her right where he wants her…doing his bidding. Makes me sick.  I PRAY she doesn’t let this narcissitic, egotistical, holier than thou, a-hole, anywhere NEAR her child.  He is right up there with Jack, of Jack & Tori (a.k.a Jerk, Jack-off) from last season.  Morena is like a bull in a china shop.  She and phony Tony…were doomed from the start. I hope that Karina and Paul can get through this…and I hope he takes the opportunity to get the counseling that has been offered. Having survived an abusive marriage (that almost cost me my children’s lives) I pray that he is not acting remorseful and not truly meaning it.  I love Jamie and Dave more and more and more. I am crushing on him.   Who wouldn’t? He (and Jeff too ) seem like rare gems. 

A man who is comfortable washing dishes and/or clothes is not any less masculine… he’s someone who is very secure in his manhood. Lauren should be living in the 1950s. Up until now, I thought Awhina was smart … but she proved me wrong today. Why is she choosing to stay away from her child, only to be abused by this ‘man child’ ???  ..and Carina on her way to a serious DV situation… the way she makes excuses for him, comforting him, and allowing him to behave badly. That’s how it escalates… and it will 

Veronica is an actress by profession and is terrible at it

I feel they really are to hard on Paul, I lived the life with an abuser ,  got out  alive. I truly think  they  are to hard on him. now Adirian is an abuser no doubt , Jackie is sly and a bit of a wahhh baby , they may  be right for each other . Veronica was ruined by Lauren .

These experts have no clue what they are talking about, Clint washes dishes and does laundry and isn’t classed as a man, are they ok 

People like Veronica have a problem with the world not going the way they imagine or expect it to go. She’s undermining, judgemental, lacks empathy, and thinks shes smarter and better than him. It’s a shame. I feel so bad for Elliot, but then again, I console myself with “you wanted a child”. There you go…

awhina is so f dumb, she needs to leave!!!! like why are u still having second thoughts like are u moron

It is painfully obvious that Adrian is a narcissist and Athena is an empath. The way she looks to him before she is even allowed to speak, his self-righteous grins, ugh!!! I can see it so plainly because I have lived in many times over. Please Athena, leave!!

Morena is NO prize. She’s weaponized her past trauma and has clearly confused speaking up for herself with SPEAKING OVER others and her “my way or the highway” emotional demands (an ever-moving series of goalposts) are going to continue to be a challenge for her. What she thinks is “confidence” is presenting and unyielding and unforgiving emotional aggression.
But with ALL of that…Tony is a piece of work. He is SO SO insidiously passive-aggressive and hides it behind a very practiced “happy Tony!” facade. The continuing to pretend that he is confused by Morena’s (over the top BUT) understandable annoyance and anger at his lack of emotional engagement (which he’s convinced everyone else he’s been doing) is crazy-making.
And the whole dumbshow of “why is she leaving?” is the final straw.
Unfortunately, guys like Tony will be looked upon as the victim because of the (lucky for him) pairing of a woman who is overcompensating for past treatment. SHE “looks” (but is NOT) unhinged and HE looks like “poor Tony”. He’s a walking red flag. 

tony is so full of utter crap and is brilliant at crying victim, his friends from the show and the fact that he was with adrian and sierah when they were doing their secret meetings behind awhina and billys back shows exactly who he really is, he needs to grow up and act his age, crying it in how morena is at fault for everything but he’s not leaving, its embarrassing